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Intriguing, but it cuts off right when he is about to tell people what to do .... odd ;-(
Incredible..I was surfing the internet about this myself. What I found
was to get 2 forks,electrical tape,a sponge and a 6 volt battery and an
extension cord you cut in half. I read farmers holding on to electrical
fences and curing of some rose virus. Another said it can kill you even
with low volts.
Thats great that he built this machine to cure infectious diseases. He
also mentioned 4 to 5 days. Do you hook yourself up for 4 to 5 days
non-stop or an hour a couple of hours a day. We'll all need better
instructions. Its kind of like Star Trek technology.
this is weird, i saw this video a long time ago, but this isn't the
same one, because this one was posted two days ago. looks like it was
reposted. it looks like the original posting was deleted...
Could someone tell me how to get hold of Doctor Robert Beck (if he's still alive) or find the next video to this?
This guy still Rocks!
God Bless and R.I.P.
God Bless and R.I.P.
he's dead?
I read he had hit his head in a fatal fall...
go to google video and type dr bob beck.there are 3 main videos from
the dr. there are other videos on the same subject. i saw a cancer lump
vanish in 7 minutes what a blessing from Allah these devices do work!
for every diseases Allah created he create a cure for it and towards
the End Times there will be a cure for all disease.Peace
ya odd it cuts off
please do not lose this video and keep it up as long as u can...
Seeing that America is so corrupt why don't doctors/scientists in other
countries make this known to the public and put it into practice?
I knew someone who had to go to mexico to have this treatment done. He
brought the information back to the states because he cured himself and
wanted to help other people cure themselves. he started making the
device and giving it to people and within a wek US Marshalls raided his
house and took everything. Think about that.
ok you say it kills virus but would you not have to elecricute yourself
all the time since we live in a bacteria filled world what you think
about that
electricute means "death by electricity". The body is electric itself.
Your body is more electro magnetic and plasmic than anything else, even
water. he is not talking about frying yourself.
Well, wrong on the fat slob front, and as a scientist I feel I am in
not a bad position to judge the merits of what he is saying... also I
or any other scientist haven't referenced the fox news or you tube in
any of our recent publications
He said that it kills the virus in a PETRI-DISH, not in the human
body!! This is just a stupid conspiracy, there is no cure for AIDs yet.
wow listen to what he meant by that...u r just like others who pick @
the message instead of understanding the whole message which is to go
find the cure for yourself, F*** relying on the gov.
What a terrible thing to say. IT would be more of a just cause for an
ignorant keyboard commando like yourself to be in a car accident.
I don't think any treatment like this will CURE a person from HIV. I
think at most it will lower a persons viral load. Because how do you
get this to go through a persons entire body?
gee dumbfuck, i don't know maybe the BLOOD will carry the electrical
current to EVERY part of the body. Pull your head out of your ass.
Why did you reply so rudely? This is a serious issue. I would like for
this to work, but there are not any documented cases of it working. I
hope that you are less toxic in person; I'm definitely less peaceful.
Somebody with HIV please try this and let us know if it works. You will be doing the world and yourself a great service.
Somebody with HIV please try this and let us know if it works. You will be doing the world and yourself a great service.
has anyone even tried doing this method that has the virus and was
cured this is ridiculous if it did work why dont they put it on youtube
like every other bullshit out there people will believe anything for a
miracle
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I have an uncle who did this, it helped him A LOT. He now does
pyroenergen which is like a deep electromagnetic resonance. He has done
absurd amounts of research about this and has not found one bad thing
about it (forums, reviews etc.). This DOES work (pyroenergen actually
guarantees it to cure AIDS/ HIV in a month or your money back). This
really does cure almost everything. It is amazing.
so basically it didnt cure your uncle it treated him.whatever traetment
he used probably surpressed his virus.for the people that have profound
knowledge about this virus know that this virus is complicated.not
everybody has the same hiv strain in them. it may do wonders for one
person but leave others in disappointment
Its true, this does work to kill any infections, I use it all the time.
Now, are you just screwing around, or are you serious?
I'm completely serious, I've used it to get rid of colds and
infections, and it works in minutes. Zappers cannot reach into the
intestines, so if you have an infection there, a combination of a
zapper and herbs would surly kill the microorganisms. These devices
reach throughout most of the body and it eliminates viruses, bacteria,
fungi, and parasites from the body.
ok, I was just making sure because a lot of people on here screw around. Thank you for the info!
it is really true, i also used it. it's a miracle.
i just can't believe the fact that only a few people know it.
i just can't believe the fact that only a few people know it.
take a biologie class on youtube
Buce Lipton - Biology of Perception 1 of 7
Buce Lipton - Biology of Perception 1 of 7
Its real go yahoo to search his website , bob beck had a phd degree and really know his stuff :).
I use a zapper, in fact, I think I'll take it out now and use it. It is
helpful, but more than anything, it releases something that makes me
feel totally happy and productive. Very nice feeling.
What you are feeling is a release of natural pain relievers like
naturally produced morphines that are trying to aid in the repair of
damage you are causing by introducing dangerous currents into the
brain. The BT-5 is a dangerous device and should not be used for any
purpose. There is a reason why the FDA exists. It is to keep quacks
like Bob Beck and other frauds from producing and selling untested and
unsafe medical devices.
So, first you say it does nothing but produces a placebo effect, the
later to tell us that it's dangerous? I do believe in this. Have you
ever tryed it? Have anyone ever researched it? other then dr. Kaaly and
dr, Beck? We all know that no one makes money on healty people. Take
back your power!
Wrong genius. I said the BT5 was dangerous not the current gimmick. The
current gimmick is very safe as it doesn't do anything period. There is
a reason for the FDA and its clods like Boob Beck making medical claims
without the benefit of any evidence at all. Very ill people who avoid
traditional protocols in the hopes that some goofy ill conceived
micro-TENS devices will be putting themselves at risk. Anyone charging
money for such crap should be charged and incercerated.
Okay, thanks:)
Okay for a start Bob Beck isn't promoting anything right now because he already dead.
Also he was a REAL doctor of physics that use to create device for the military and also in hi later year teach as a university professor.
He gave his plans away form free and is not financially associated with the companies responsible for making his products. Sota instruments.
Bob beck actually held the patent on the camera light bulb flash. Do you really think he needed more money? morons
Also he was a REAL doctor of physics that use to create device for the military and also in hi later year teach as a university professor.
He gave his plans away form free and is not financially associated with the companies responsible for making his products. Sota instruments.
Bob beck actually held the patent on the camera light bulb flash. Do you really think he needed more money? morons
I haven't actually talked one person. Not one! That has used his devices and not had something positive to say about it.
Hulda Clark on the toher hand.... well she definately a conartist but don;t put these two people in the same bag because they definately aren't
Hulda Clark on the toher hand.... well she definately a conartist but don;t put these two people in the same bag because they definately aren't
"I haven't actually talked one person. Not one! That has used his devices and not had something positive to say about it."
Placebos are not impressive. The question is do the devices cure AIDS? There is no evidence at all to support this claim.
Placebos are not impressive. The question is do the devices cure AIDS? There is no evidence at all to support this claim.
"Without a research disproving it there's a possibility it's working."
Ok... licking my feet cures AIDS. As long as there is no research (or noone is willing or I wont let them or I wont test it myself) this claim is true.
Logic doesn't seem to be your strong suit.
Ok... licking my feet cures AIDS. As long as there is no research (or noone is willing or I wont let them or I wont test it myself) this claim is true.
Logic doesn't seem to be your strong suit.
"Ok... licking my feet cures AIDS"
Oh yeah lets not forget. Licking my feet is a cure for AIDS that the Pharma companies want to suppress.
Oh yeah lets not forget. Licking my feet is a cure for AIDS that the Pharma companies want to suppress.
Nobody claims that (except you maybe). Just because you didn't see any
research that don't mean there isn't. You'll be amazed how many people
claiming they are cured of AIDS with various of experimental treatments
some are just food . Maybe if other people start claiming that licking
your feet can cure them why not. It won't harm nobody. Talking about
dangerous treatments - try AZT.
"Nobody claims that" What do you know? I got a friend that got cured. Even my professors say so.
"You'll be amazed how many people claiming"
Claiming is not evidence. I just claimed that licking my feet cures AIDS.
"Just because you didn't see any research that don't mean there isn't." - Well I'm done searching and finding nothing. You make the claim you provide the evidence.
"It won't harm nobody."
Ignorance can be dangerous!
"try AZT"
Hmm... prolonged life with side effects or death?
"You'll be amazed how many people claiming"
Claiming is not evidence. I just claimed that licking my feet cures AIDS.
"Just because you didn't see any research that don't mean there isn't." - Well I'm done searching and finding nothing. You make the claim you provide the evidence.
"It won't harm nobody."
Ignorance can be dangerous!
"try AZT"
Hmm... prolonged life with side effects or death?
Actually there is evidence ... at the Albert eistien college of new
york they actually did experiments where in vitro the running a small
current through a sample of aids infected blood killed the virus.
As chavadar says... do your research.
As chavadar says... do your research.
"As chavadar says... do your research"
Ok smarty pants. Which cell cultures were used in this experiment to which percentage was the HIV infectivity reduced. Was this tested on already infected cells so that it's really a cure and do in vitro results automaticly work in vivo?
Did you do your research?
Ok smarty pants. Which cell cultures were used in this experiment to which percentage was the HIV infectivity reduced. Was this tested on already infected cells so that it's really a cure and do in vitro results automaticly work in vivo?
Did you do your research?
"Ok smarty pants. Which cell cultures were used in this experiment to
which percentage was the HIV infectivity reduced. Was this tested on
already infected cells so that it's really a cure and do in vitro
results automaticly work in vivo?"
As a said... do your research.....
What do you think this is.... wikipedia...
As a said... do your research.....
What do you think this is.... wikipedia...
"As a said... do your research.....
What do you think this is.... wikipedia..."
I'm asking you because I already know. Impress me with your knowledge on the subject.
What do you think this is.... wikipedia..."
I'm asking you because I already know. Impress me with your knowledge on the subject.
Well you already know..... so your claim earier that this video was just blank claim was you being an ass obviously....
Really if I want to go impress someone I think i'll go impress someone I like or atleast someone important.....
Really if I want to go impress someone I think i'll go impress someone I like or atleast someone important.....
u must be a doctor or someshit like that , hope u die bitch. at least
the old man is given some hope and u are trying to take it away. go to
hell
this is correct this was the man Rife machine Google it the one talks
about is the new one works faster take note you will want to eliminate
these chemicals from your diet also
MSG, ASPARTAME, BROTH, CASEN OR CASEINATE, GLUTAMATE, HYDROLYZED, AUTOLYZED YEAST, This is in all preprocessed food, Google each one and began living again.
MSG, ASPARTAME, BROTH, CASEN OR CASEINATE, GLUTAMATE, HYDROLYZED, AUTOLYZED YEAST, This is in all preprocessed food, Google each one and began living again.
I as well use a zapper. I struggled for 16 years with a cough that
doctors explained away as allergies, and for which I tried many types
of drugs, and once even suffered a pre-stroke episode trying to rid
myself of the cough. 2 months on the zapper accomplished that never to
come back, and I suspect it was a form of mycoplasma, or bacteria.
Personally, I will now always have a zapper at my side, and just
finished my 21 minutes.
hello NeoBlueeye where can i get the diagram of the device and the list of the products this professor have shown?thanks
Bob Beck has built a career on B.S.going back to the BT5. The patent he
references in this video has nothing to do with the device is promoting
now. The patent discloses a blood purification process by means of
direct introduction of current into the blood stream. Applying this
current especially 2 micro-amps to skin as demonstrated has absolutely
no effect at all as the current will follow the path of least
resistance which is the skin surface itself and not a single artery.
Quack Quack Bob!
Jack, do you derive your information from disinformation? The
electricity is not high enough to travel across the skin, higher
voltage required. And if there was no transference of energy a person
could turn up these machines to highest level without any pain or
effect on the muscles under the skin, which is not the case.
You are obviously not an engineer. I have been developing medical
devices for over 20 years and I can tell you that Bob Beck never
produced anything of merit concerning medical technology. The device
shown here is a fraud like Bob. This device is no more than a
micro-TENS device incapable of doing anything beyond placebo effect.
And if you are without the benefit of any medical device background
supporting this device you are a fraud also.
When you built the device, was it easy to use? How about your test
subjects, did they experience any effects? Can you direct me to a
patent of a machine you designed or invented so I can check up on your
thought process, so I can see if you are an innovator or a follower.
As a long time biomedical engineer I can tell you that this device will
not work period. Such a minute level of current could not have any
biological effect on any blood pathogens. If however one were to deploy
the methods used in the reference patent that Boob Beck refers to as
some secreted document suppressed by the evil medical industry, you
might be able to have some effect. Without trials however...
You can check out any of my 21 issued or pending patents at the PTO and EPO. "Durban"
You can check out any of my 21 issued or pending patents at the PTO and EPO. "Durban"
50-100 mico-amps BTW.
so if it doesnt work why the hell would the authorities want to hide
this invention from the world, i rest my case, no more to say, logic is
more powerful than nonsense.
you did see the entire video right?do you realize how much money the
pharmaceutical companies make off of aids patients every year?and not
to mention if this information was released to the public there would
be a massive doubt of the government and pharmaceitical companies.but
hey i guess your right,logic is more powerful than nonsense.
Apparently, you don't know how much a microampere is. It's 1/1,000,000
amperes. 100 microamperes would be 1/10,000 of an ampere. To put that
into perspective, taser's usually have 2/100's of an ampere. It takes
about 7/10 of an ampere to kill someone.
Point is, this device would be nowhere near enough to kill someone.
Point is, this device would be nowhere near enough to kill someone.
Wow, sorry, I don't know why I types 7/10. It takes 1/10 to kill
someone, which is way, way higher than 1/10,000 of an ampere. Sorry for
the confusion.
Well the guy in the video is a PHD. What are your qualifications?
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Well you've already got the crazy and rambling part down....
I have researched Dr. Beck's protocol and there is solid research behind it.
The mafia owns 51% of the drug companies, so of course they don't let natural cures get press coverage. Capish?
Hundreds of cancer cures, including the one covered in this video, can be found here, and some of them are very inexpensive:
cancertutor dot com
The mafia owns 51% of the drug companies, so of course they don't let natural cures get press coverage. Capish?
Hundreds of cancer cures, including the one covered in this video, can be found here, and some of them are very inexpensive:
cancertutor dot com
i had this rash the doctor says was an fungi infection that attacks the
immune system. doc gave me Canastan cream, the cream would just move
the rash from my neck to my arm and legs, and bleach my skin, im brown
skinned.i see his video on omegatube.com. he talked about megnetic
pulse to kill everything, i got my digital camera, yes it makes a EMP
if the flash is on, 2 days the rash has gone and aint returned.this man
is for real.
AIDS cure...Suderlandia Fructosate.
Cancer cure...Apricot seeds.
Cancer cure...Apricot seeds.
By the way this guy is a fraud.
Foods cure illnesses not electricity.
Foods cure illnesses not electricity.
do u have any evidence that u cure aids ?cure hiv kill hiv/ how come
eveybody seems too find the cure.everybody defeated the aids.they all
become schizophrenic i think
schizophrenic are the people who still believe in the big pharma and give their money and life to them lol
I believe that this is true. I don't just see one person claiming this,
I see thousands of people claiming this. People is being cured over
seas. Aids is more spreaded in the US and Africa. Why not the others.
Hmmm! THATS BECAUSE THEY WANT THE FDA TO SUPPRESS THE CURES THAT THE
OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE> Think about it and research for yourself.
Thats my opinion from my own research. SAD :(
AIDS was created by the eugenics to control population. They had the
cure at the same time they engineer the disease. Of course they dont
want people to use this technique discuss here. Big pharma will stop
making money. Its a big game thats being played out there, knowledge's
is supress on every front [free energy, health, food etc..] to control
people opinion/life.
If anyone is interested in building their own Bob Beck Devices (Blood
Zapper and magnetic Pulser). Please visit ebay and search under:
How to Build Bob Beck Blood Electrifier Magnetic Pulser
How to Build Bob Beck Blood Electrifier Magnetic Pulser
ebay user name "gfps" sells these sota devices at a very good price and they accept paypal.
personally I think the germs, bacterias, parasites etc etc are givin to
the population through vaccines, they make us sick and cash in on our
sickness with the sale of pharmacutical drugs, much like a heroin
dealer giving a free sample so the addict will surely come back for
more.
The love of money is the root of all evil and no truer words were ever spoken.
The love of money is the root of all evil and no truer words were ever spoken.
I am offering to custom build both the Blood Electrifier & Magnetic
Pulser at a much more affordable price than Sota offers. Each is
handmade and checked to ensure optimum functionality, not factory made.
You can search under research*bunny on ebay or contact me via Youtube.
"I am offering to custom build both the Blood Electrifier"
What's worse than a Boob Beck sham medical device? A copy cat Boob Beck sham medical device.
What are you going to do when you are arrested by the FDA for selling unsafe and unapproved, non 510k medical devices?
What's worse than a Boob Beck sham medical device? A copy cat Boob Beck sham medical device.
What are you going to do when you are arrested by the FDA for selling unsafe and unapproved, non 510k medical devices?
so, let me get this straight, all someones gotta do is zap themselves with 12 volts for a few minute and they're cured??
No. This device provides only a placebo effect for the golf score I.Q.
patient. This device is just a micro TENS unit and doesn't do a thing
except separate dolts from their money. Bob was a hack and new nothing
about biomedical engineering other than what he learned from Meg
Patterson back in the 80's. And by the way I am a real biomedical
engineer and design real medical technology for a living.
B.S. This contrived big medicine is out to get you paranoia resides
solely with the most ignorant among us, like yourself. It takes no
effort at all to be stupid. The Pharma industry like any other. It is
in business to make money. The cost to produce a new drug is
astronomical and with government imposed regulations it takes 3 forty
foot tractor trailers filled from floor to ceiling with paperwork.
Without this industry we would be still in the stone age of disease
intervention and treatment.
"Without that same industry most deseases would be cured i'm sure"
So in your kooky world Polio would have eventually been cured by swinging a chicken over your head 3 times while chanting and dancing on one foot? Do you remember what the average life expectancy was prior to the introduction of pharmaceuticals? It was about 30 years. Now you go ahead and stay in your cave and avoid all those evil drugs and oil. I'll be living a full and happy paranoia free life benefited by real science.
So in your kooky world Polio would have eventually been cured by swinging a chicken over your head 3 times while chanting and dancing on one foot? Do you remember what the average life expectancy was prior to the introduction of pharmaceuticals? It was about 30 years. Now you go ahead and stay in your cave and avoid all those evil drugs and oil. I'll be living a full and happy paranoia free life benefited by real science.
Big Pharma are scum and you are supporting them. There is no such thing as real science. Science today is
re-written tommorow.
Good luck with your ''real science'', your worthless dollar and your fascist leaders who are destroying your wonderful country and so your so called liberties.
re-written tommorow.
Good luck with your ''real science'', your worthless dollar and your fascist leaders who are destroying your wonderful country and so your so called liberties.
You have the right to be stupid. It takes lot less effort.
I can tell by your goofy profile that you are the anti-establishment, 911 was an inside job, conspiracy kook. Your view of everything is that of a lunatic. Don't worry, you will have a lot of company here. We have our share of black helicopter reporting tin foil hat wearers here in the U.S. too.
I can tell by your goofy profile that you are the anti-establishment, 911 was an inside job, conspiracy kook. Your view of everything is that of a lunatic. Don't worry, you will have a lot of company here. We have our share of black helicopter reporting tin foil hat wearers here in the U.S. too.
Well your profile looks empty, Like your brain?
You are actually one of those people who believe that 3 metal structured buildings can collapse at free fall speed because of 2 airplanes?
Oh please. You shouldn't watch so much FOX. It's nazi like propaganda which is very bad for your judgement.
You are actually one of those people who believe that 3 metal structured buildings can collapse at free fall speed because of 2 airplanes?
Oh please. You shouldn't watch so much FOX. It's nazi like propaganda which is very bad for your judgement.
I must apologize, Jack, but paranoia does not only reside solely with
the most ignorant of us, after reading your comments, I have come to
the conclusion that you are paranoic yourself. Answering in a slightly
hostile matter, quoting only half of other's words, you are safe in the
internet. Nobody can see your face. If you hate most skeptical people,
you have come to the wrong place, youtube is filled with paranoids.
"I must apologize, Jack, but paranoia does not only reside solely with the most ignorant of us"
When this drivel is accepted as fact by the least intelligent among us how many will die needlessly?
I do believe in some alternative health approaches but when it comes to cancer no one should ever attempt to self medicate unless every possible legitimate treatment fails.
Bob Beck was an attention starved nitwit and should not be considered as a reliable source of knowledge on any topic period.
When this drivel is accepted as fact by the least intelligent among us how many will die needlessly?
I do believe in some alternative health approaches but when it comes to cancer no one should ever attempt to self medicate unless every possible legitimate treatment fails.
Bob Beck was an attention starved nitwit and should not be considered as a reliable source of knowledge on any topic period.
thanks for the reply JACKDURBAN. youtube needs to start cracking down
on the fakes and frauds on its site. IF ANYONE ELSE IS SICK OF ALL THE
FRAUDS, LEAVE A COMMENT AND LEAVE A BIG ONE!!
I find it amazing that so many people will completely abandon common
sense and logic to believe that everything they don't understand must
be inherently evil. It is truly the age of endarkenment. They will
cling to anecdotally derived claims of all kinds of cures from
opportunists like "Dr"Boob Beck but discard clinically supervised
double blind studies that are indisputable! If these people could just
study the powers of of the placebo effect they might recoup their
senses. Then again...
jack durban: people who dont use common sense and logic, who believe
something is evil b/c they dont understand, are like sheep mindlessly
grazing unaware of the world around them...for the sheep who wont wake
from this comatose state are inherently doomed, the "powers that be" or
predators if u will, will prey upon these pple unless they WAKE THE
FUCK UP, and start to THINK...figure out ur own problems pple or
someone else will, and u might not like their solution
A lot of this is due to the "Oprah-ization" of our culture. That gas
bag has indirectly kiiled a lot of people by all the disinformation on
mercury in polio vaccinations.
As a biomedical engineer I could make a fortune with this crowd selling them crap like Boob Beck's offerings.
It is important to note that not all alternative medical devices are this worthless. There are a few Rife knockoffs that do show promise. But 27 volts D.C. across the skin doesn't do anything but lighten the wallet.
As a biomedical engineer I could make a fortune with this crowd selling them crap like Boob Beck's offerings.
It is important to note that not all alternative medical devices are this worthless. There are a few Rife knockoffs that do show promise. But 27 volts D.C. across the skin doesn't do anything but lighten the wallet.
Jack, I wasn't agreeing with these idiots. I was merely stating that
paranoia is actually a mental disorder that can reside in almost all of
us.
Who is this JackDurban clown? Who does he think he is to be telling
everyone what to believe? History is full of creeps like him who
believe in only one thing and one thing only and heaven help anyone
that disagrees with them. Wasn't Hitler like that also?
"Who is this JackDurban clown?"
I am an established inventor and engineer with over 20 patents and 210 products specializing in Robotics, Asset Tracking, Navigation, RFID, and Consumer Electronics design & development. I have worked with many great scientists and visionaries since the early 80's.
we (Vorelco) provide product safety and regulatory compliance screening for clients. I am often asked to test devices like the Boob Beck device for those interested in alternative protocols. It failed
I am an established inventor and engineer with over 20 patents and 210 products specializing in Robotics, Asset Tracking, Navigation, RFID, and Consumer Electronics design & development. I have worked with many great scientists and visionaries since the early 80's.
we (Vorelco) provide product safety and regulatory compliance screening for clients. I am often asked to test devices like the Boob Beck device for those interested in alternative protocols. It failed
Could you explain a little more? When you say it failed, are you saying
you used it on someone who has cancer or a disease and it didn't work?
Of course not. This device would never withstand a single anecdotal
test on a cancer patient or true double blind study. The device failed
in delivering any meaningful or practical level of current into a
standard LCR body model load.
Boob Beck either did not understand the patent which he claims his goofy contraption was modeled after or he was just blowing smoke like he did with every one of his prior merit less "cures".
Double blind studies reveal true remedies and anecdotals sell junk.
Boob Beck either did not understand the patent which he claims his goofy contraption was modeled after or he was just blowing smoke like he did with every one of his prior merit less "cures".
Double blind studies reveal true remedies and anecdotals sell junk.
This is Amazing..We need more forward thinking like this man...to live
better again the biggest human kind predators..diseases..regardless if
their effective or not...
Cui bono?
What a load of absolute claptrap. Sure electrocute yourself with this
therapy and see if you wake up ! Big pharma making money ? Not denied.
Quack treatments like this trying to make money ? Deny it !
Actually this device only outputs 27 volts derived from three 9v radio
batteries in series so electrocution is not a possibility.
The problem with this device is that it doesn't do anything but apply a meaningless amount of D.C. current across dry skin with dry electrodes.
27 volts D.C. applied to the body in this manner will not accomplish anything beyond a very slight muscle contraction at the point of contact.
Boob Beck states that this as being the same as the patent yet it is not at all
The problem with this device is that it doesn't do anything but apply a meaningless amount of D.C. current across dry skin with dry electrodes.
27 volts D.C. applied to the body in this manner will not accomplish anything beyond a very slight muscle contraction at the point of contact.
Boob Beck states that this as being the same as the patent yet it is not at all
What about A.C.?
Well that depends. Rife Technology uses very specific frequency A.C.
targeting specific organisms like viruses and bacterias.
One has to be very careful introducing any currents into the body A.C. or D.C.
Boob Beck actually advised users to apply the "Brain Tuner" electrodes behind the ears causing dangerous currents to flow through the cranium!
This goofy contraption was Boob Beck's feeble attempt at copying Meg Patterson's device that actually worked.
One has to be very careful introducing any currents into the body A.C. or D.C.
Boob Beck actually advised users to apply the "Brain Tuner" electrodes behind the ears causing dangerous currents to flow through the cranium!
This goofy contraption was Boob Beck's feeble attempt at copying Meg Patterson's device that actually worked.
Well, perhaps you didn't understood the words "blood electrification".
You're not going to use it on dry skin, it does not work. Instead you
insert a needle inside the vein and deliver the 50-100 micro ampere of
power.
It's possible to kill the virus, but what worries me is if it won't do the same to the rest of the organisms that fills the blood stream.
It's possible to kill the virus, but what worries me is if it won't do the same to the rest of the organisms that fills the blood stream.
"Well, perhaps you didn't understood the words "blood electrification".
Therein lies the problem. Kaali's technology was never adequately tested. If a "Breakthrough' like this really showed promise it would be on the market. All this talk of big Pharma preventing such technologies from entering the market is just B.S.
As a biomedical engineer I would bet the farm that Kaali's technology did not do well in the lab and was abandoned only due to poor testing results.
Therein lies the problem. Kaali's technology was never adequately tested. If a "Breakthrough' like this really showed promise it would be on the market. All this talk of big Pharma preventing such technologies from entering the market is just B.S.
As a biomedical engineer I would bet the farm that Kaali's technology did not do well in the lab and was abandoned only due to poor testing results.
First of all, let me make something very clear, I didn't say at any
point that I truly believe in this theory. Very interesting indeed, but
I, as a medical student, have to be skeptical about everything, perhaps
I'll put it to test in my university laboratory (have I mentioned that
I did a year of biochemistry too?). I was just replying to your poor
understanding of the apparatus. As for "poor laboratory results", as
long as I have not seen it with my own eyes I don't credit or
discredit. Cheers
My poor understanding of the apparatus? You are just a neophyte still learning which end of a microscope to look into.
As one in the field with over 20 patents I can assure you that I know this technology inside and out and as one who prosecutes and reads patents for a living I have a very clear understanding of the embodiments disclosed.
If Kaali's theories were more than just theories it the device would be on the market.
There is unlimited funding available for real breakthroughs.
As one in the field with over 20 patents I can assure you that I know this technology inside and out and as one who prosecutes and reads patents for a living I have a very clear understanding of the embodiments disclosed.
If Kaali's theories were more than just theories it the device would be on the market.
There is unlimited funding available for real breakthroughs.
According to your logic we should have had electric cars for years now,
shouldn't we? Since it has been invented, tested and accredited many
years ago, but suddenly the major car industries shot the whole project
down and now is mysteriously coming back to life. Interesting, isn't it?
Again, I'm not saying I believe the THEORY as you insinuate me to be, I'm saying would be interesting to perform a few tests and see how it goes. Cheers mate.
Again, I'm not saying I believe the THEORY as you insinuate me to be, I'm saying would be interesting to perform a few tests and see how it goes. Cheers mate.
We have had electric cars for over 100 years and they still do not see
any market penetration. Why? Because they cause more aggregate
pollution than combustion engines. Why? because they are grossly
inefficient and when you compute the actual energy consumed to recharge
them there is a net loss. The Toyota Prius creates more net pollution
than a Hummer. Why? Battery composition and waste disposal.
Electric cars are not the answer and never will be. Hydrogen power is however!
Electric cars are not the answer and never will be. Hydrogen power is however!
Since this is an endless argument I'll put it to an end. It's clear
enough that we both need to do better research to argument with
scientific proof of what we are saying.
Nicely played though.
Nicely played though.
Endless argument? Not really. You just realized you got caught not knowing anything about the topic and hoped to wing it.
I was designing medical technology before you were conceived.
That's the beauty of youtube.
Anyone can bluff their way through a post until a real expert shows up then the game changes. The pretender can't partake in the exchange of ideas due to ignorance so the only recourse is to cut and run hoping not to look too foolish for attempting the bluff in the first place.
I was designing medical technology before you were conceived.
That's the beauty of youtube.
Anyone can bluff their way through a post until a real expert shows up then the game changes. The pretender can't partake in the exchange of ideas due to ignorance so the only recourse is to cut and run hoping not to look too foolish for attempting the bluff in the first place.
What a pathetic attempt to seen like someone. Perhaps you should work
on your information on hydrogen X electrical cars, because they are
INCORRECT. And about the other subject since I never claimed anything
YOU created the whole argument by yourself, GL.
Where is Dr. Kaali? Anyone follow-up with the inventor of this treatment?
Jack Durban is clearly trying to misguide people. Im not saying I
believe or dont believe this works,its just obvious this guy is full of
disinformatin.Now anybody can come on the internet and say there a
biomedical engineer or what ever you wanna call yourself but in reality
this guy probably got a free pizza for spreading a little bit of
disinfo around the internet.You want a real cure for HIV? Look up Boyd
graves on youtube. Btw,polio is still very common.What do you thinkg
meningitas is?
Do you have any idea just how ridiculous you sound? How would you know,
from the depths of your ignorance information from disinformation
regarding this topic?
You are just a stooge.
And anyone who thinks Boyd Graves is anything other than an absolute fool and a joke of a human being is a fool himself.
There are plenty of conspiracy kooks out there but Boyd Graves is beyond kook status and should be the modern era benchmark for how far a man can sink into the abyss of self aggrandizement.
You are just a stooge.
And anyone who thinks Boyd Graves is anything other than an absolute fool and a joke of a human being is a fool himself.
There are plenty of conspiracy kooks out there but Boyd Graves is beyond kook status and should be the modern era benchmark for how far a man can sink into the abyss of self aggrandizement.
Continuing my comment, someone with paranoia shouldn't be considered an
idiot, for this illness in itself only clouds judgement, not mental
capacity. I agree with you on everything else Jack, anyone trying to
prove they know more than a professional by applying home-made devices
to cure AIDS should go see a doctor.
At least support your 'arguemnet' with some kind of information.You
state that I'm ignorant solely off 1 comment. Thats the definition of
ignorance. Your either misguided or just simply trying to spread
disinfo to discredit the truths behind the medical industry. If your
truely a biomedical engineer I suggest you look into population
stabablization. You should be able to grasp considering your claims. As
far as boyd graves goes he may not be the best speaker but what he
speaks is the truth.
I can tell by your poor spelling and use of grammar that you would not
be able to grasp anything I would have to say regarding this topic.
All I can impart to you is that I have been in this industry since the early 80's and have thousands of hours in the lab developing medical technology. And I have communicated with the daffy and paranoid Boyd Graves several times and he is a foolish man and nothing he says should be given a second thought.
Only a moron would believe his groundless drivel.
All I can impart to you is that I have been in this industry since the early 80's and have thousands of hours in the lab developing medical technology. And I have communicated with the daffy and paranoid Boyd Graves several times and he is a foolish man and nothing he says should be given a second thought.
Only a moron would believe his groundless drivel.
What a surprise no supporting arguement once again. Yeah I may not have
the best spelling or grammar but what does that really have to do with
anything? You have brought no useful information to the table regarding
boyd graves and you just continue to call him a fool with out backing
it up what so ever. I hate to say it but your just an old man whos
getting way to far ahead of themselves. Go back to the 80's when people
actually bought into all the crap the media force feeds people daily.
So you're saying people to stop believe in what sounds too good to be
true and to leave themselves in the hands of today's reality. In other
words in the hands of the doctors who promise you painful and miserable
life expanded by artificial medication that you would hardly afford. If
you had AIDS what would you do, live with it? That's the spirit.
Maybe there's a 0.00000000001% chance to cure it and it's more that enough to try. This invention is almost for free so is the perfect way to start.
Maybe there's a 0.00000000001% chance to cure it and it's more that enough to try. This invention is almost for free so is the perfect way to start.
It is really hard to reason with people that already have a paranoid
preconceived notion that doctors are some how evil. Doctors are not
evil and do not spend a third of their lives studying just to kill
people. This bizarre notion that the medical profession is out to kill
people is born of sheer ignorance and foolishness.
This is akin to saying Microsoft makes really crappy software not because of poor quality control but because they want to drive people crazy.
Now use your head and think!
This is akin to saying Microsoft makes really crappy software not because of poor quality control but because they want to drive people crazy.
Now use your head and think!
MS makes crappy software because they're driven by the money. Their
software is marketing based, not quality based which means they don't
give a fck about the people but only their money.
I don't think doctors have a bad nature, but they're caught in the trap of the system. In one third of their lives someone installed wrong believes in their heads.
One such believe is "Aids is so complicated that is almost impossible to be curer and only the biggest professionals can cure it someday, maybe".
I don't think doctors have a bad nature, but they're caught in the trap of the system. In one third of their lives someone installed wrong believes in their heads.
One such believe is "Aids is so complicated that is almost impossible to be curer and only the biggest professionals can cure it someday, maybe".
"MS makes crappy software because they're driven by the money." Another
dopey response that makes no sense . Why don't you join forces with the
other golf score I.Q.s here and collectively you might be able to at
least figure out the whole English grammar and spelling thing.
After determining that there are no signs of intelligent life here I am moving on to more productive endeavors.
All I can leave you dim bulbs with is go ahead and buy Boob Beck's contraption and see for yourself.
After determining that there are no signs of intelligent life here I am moving on to more productive endeavors.
All I can leave you dim bulbs with is go ahead and buy Boob Beck's contraption and see for yourself.
You should try Bulgarian spelling.
Apple's OS is million times better than Windows if you can afford it ;)
And yes, people should see for themselves, especially things that won't harm them and should live with the hope of curing themselves not waiting to die.
One thing is for sure, the cure is out there, we just didn't find it yet, or maybe we did.
Apple's OS is million times better than Windows if you can afford it ;)
And yes, people should see for themselves, especially things that won't harm them and should live with the hope of curing themselves not waiting to die.
One thing is for sure, the cure is out there, we just didn't find it yet, or maybe we did.
You are right. Its the drug companies that are bad. Doctors are just
people. There are cheap alternatives to expensive drugs with endless
side effects.
"This invention is almost for free so is the perfect way to start."
The thing is that this invention doesn't work. There is no peer reviewed reseach done which demonstrates its effectiveness in vivo.
If you take money for promising something to the people with AIDS which doesn't work is no better than preying on the weak.
The thing is that this invention doesn't work. There is no peer reviewed reseach done which demonstrates its effectiveness in vivo.
If you take money for promising something to the people with AIDS which doesn't work is no better than preying on the weak.
"And if you don't take money(like the guy on the video above)?"
Then A) I'll distribute or sell my cure myself or B) give it to one of the pharma firms for free (they'll laugh their asses off).
Just don't indulge in all that conspiracy shit. If you have a cure which works (and Beck's doesn't) and they don't have the patent they can't possibly suppress you.
The hole conspiracy is just a pr-gag for his useless device. That and falsely promising cure is morally incomprehensible.
Then A) I'll distribute or sell my cure myself or B) give it to one of the pharma firms for free (they'll laugh their asses off).
Just don't indulge in all that conspiracy shit. If you have a cure which works (and Beck's doesn't) and they don't have the patent they can't possibly suppress you.
The hole conspiracy is just a pr-gag for his useless device. That and falsely promising cure is morally incomprehensible.
And pharmaceuticals will sell cheap machine that that cures AIDS for
two weeks instead of selling drugs that don't cure you never (just keep
you alive) that cost $50 000 an year and you're a subscriber for life.
This device can't even be patented because you can build it at home.
Cure of AIDS on the price of vitamin C - not in the planet Earth.
You'll se e a pattern for all similar illnesses: AIDS, Cancer, Multiple
sclerosis, Alzheimer, Parkinson etc.
Yes some pharmaceutical companies will do exactly that. They'll make
some money while they'll destroy the AIDS drugs of the market leader
thereby depriving them from establishing their dominance further.
Your reasoning is flawed anyway. Your premise is that all people that work for the pharmaceutical industry are evil and that there actually IS a cure for AIDS atm which there isn't.
Your reasoning is flawed anyway. Your premise is that all people that work for the pharmaceutical industry are evil and that there actually IS a cure for AIDS atm which there isn't.
"This device can't even be patented because you can build it at home."
Don't pretend you know anything about patent law.
"Cure of AIDS on the price of vitamin C - not in the planet Earth"
Again your premise is that the thing actually works. IT DOESN'T! If something could cure AIDS at the price of vit. C I'd be fucking synthesizing it myself giving it way for free and then win the nobel peace+medicine prize.
Don't pretend you know anything about patent law.
"Cure of AIDS on the price of vitamin C - not in the planet Earth"
Again your premise is that the thing actually works. IT DOESN'T! If something could cure AIDS at the price of vit. C I'd be fucking synthesizing it myself giving it way for free and then win the nobel peace+medicine prize.
"similar illnesses: AIDS, Cancer, Multiple sclerosis, Alzheimer, Parkinson etc."
The fact that you even classify these illnesses as similar tells me that you have no idea about their triggers and pathological progression.
Also the fact that you disregard the millions which the pharmaceutical industry has saved/cured with their vaccines and antibiotics even thought they don't make much money of them shows that you merely aknowledge things that support your preconceived notions.
The fact that you even classify these illnesses as similar tells me that you have no idea about their triggers and pathological progression.
Also the fact that you disregard the millions which the pharmaceutical industry has saved/cured with their vaccines and antibiotics even thought they don't make much money of them shows that you merely aknowledge things that support your preconceived notions.
By similar I mean without cure. The doctors are taking care of the
symptoms at some extent and prolonging the life of the patient until
his painful death. I forgot diabetes! Some times they cut the patient's
both legs to keep him alive.
I know how this industry works it's money oriented not health oriented. It earns more than illegal drugs and weapon industries and it kills more people than both.
I know how this industry works it's money oriented not health oriented. It earns more than illegal drugs and weapon industries and it kills more people than both.
Let me make an analogy of what your saying. Because the airline
industry relies on us getting places they are suppressing my teleporter.
"I forgot diabetes! Some times they cut the patient's both legs to keep him alive."
And the fact that someone suffers from diabetes and that they are not allowed to commit euthanasia is the fault of the pharmaceutical industry?
"I know how this industry works" - Nothing you've said so far supports this claim.
"I forgot diabetes! Some times they cut the patient's both legs to keep him alive."
And the fact that someone suffers from diabetes and that they are not allowed to commit euthanasia is the fault of the pharmaceutical industry?
"I know how this industry works" - Nothing you've said so far supports this claim.
There are hundreds of cases that people can cure (I said CURE)
themselves of diabetes only by changing their diet. That means you
don't have to buy any medications at all! So leave the transportation
alone, we pay enough money for gas anyway.
People I know wanted to patent a device that deals with it in you use the it ones in a while (not cure but many times better). They stop trying. At first I though "C'mon you can't stop " but then I found out that this is not the first nor the last device.
People I know wanted to patent a device that deals with it in you use the it ones in a while (not cure but many times better). They stop trying. At first I though "C'mon you can't stop " but then I found out that this is not the first nor the last device.
"There are hundreds of cases that people can cure (I said CURE) themselves of diabetes only by changing their diet."
Who denies that?
"That means you don't have to buy any medications at all!"
Wait... You don't know what causes diabetes so don't lean to far out the window. Some forms of diabetes can't be cured (reduced) by diet change. And if your diabetes can be cured by diet change etc. how is it the fault of the pharmaceutical industry that you swallow their pills because you're lazy?
Who denies that?
"That means you don't have to buy any medications at all!"
Wait... You don't know what causes diabetes so don't lean to far out the window. Some forms of diabetes can't be cured (reduced) by diet change. And if your diabetes can be cured by diet change etc. how is it the fault of the pharmaceutical industry that you swallow their pills because you're lazy?
"So leave the transportation alone, we pay enough money for gas anyway."
The analogy still stands. You exchange money for goods (gas, medicaments etc.). You are not obliged to consume their products. You might as well walk to your destination or change your diet/exercise habits (if it works for your type of diabetes) if you weren't so lazy.
"They stop trying." That's their fault now isn't it?
The analogy still stands. You exchange money for goods (gas, medicaments etc.). You are not obliged to consume their products. You might as well walk to your destination or change your diet/exercise habits (if it works for your type of diabetes) if you weren't so lazy.
"They stop trying." That's their fault now isn't it?
Yes, they can't deal with a system that don't want to cure but to earn.
The analogy is that the expensive goods are better to be sold by the pharma, not the cheap. If there was a cheap alternative to insulin a whole industry will die, some people will lose there job, some are not going to be rich anymore. Insulin is something you depend on for life, it's like heroin, you take it till you die, it's not a cure. Patenting this should be easier because every minute people are dieing without it.
The analogy is that the expensive goods are better to be sold by the pharma, not the cheap. If there was a cheap alternative to insulin a whole industry will die, some people will lose there job, some are not going to be rich anymore. Insulin is something you depend on for life, it's like heroin, you take it till you die, it's not a cure. Patenting this should be easier because every minute people are dieing without it.
"Yes, they can't deal with a system that don't want to cure but to earn."
They have a cure but they 'can't' (don't want to) distribute it because the pharaceutical industry is 'evil'? Are you fucking kidding me?
"If there was a cheap alternative to insulin a whole industry will die" - Just insulin/insulin medication would die. If I had a cure for diabetes I'd sell it myself make a ton of money and take away some of the big pharma business. Your logic fails again the cure is on the market.
They have a cure but they 'can't' (don't want to) distribute it because the pharaceutical industry is 'evil'? Are you fucking kidding me?
"If there was a cheap alternative to insulin a whole industry will die" - Just insulin/insulin medication would die. If I had a cure for diabetes I'd sell it myself make a ton of money and take away some of the big pharma business. Your logic fails again the cure is on the market.
Insulin is more expensive than heroin and is much more people are using it. This is an industry.
Pharma is not just evil - it's greedy.
You can't sell a cure for diabetes yourself. Authorities (FDA) will have to approve it first, otherwise you go to jail directly if you sell it as a medication or medical device or if you claim that cures diabetes. My logic rules.
Pharma is not just evil - it's greedy.
You can't sell a cure for diabetes yourself. Authorities (FDA) will have to approve it first, otherwise you go to jail directly if you sell it as a medication or medical device or if you claim that cures diabetes. My logic rules.
"Pharma is not just evil - it's greedy."
Ah... you're moving the goalpost... but guess what you're example is still stupid.
"Insulin is more expensive than heroin and is much more people are using it."
Of course it is. Heroin is so easy to make it's just a diacetylated morphine, Insulin on the other hand is very hard to extract (low quantity),purify and control. Recombinant Insulin is a little cheaper however isolation/purification/testing/solvents/applicatio n
all add to the cost.
Ah... you're moving the goalpost... but guess what you're example is still stupid.
"Insulin is more expensive than heroin and is much more people are using it."
Of course it is. Heroin is so easy to make it's just a diacetylated morphine, Insulin on the other hand is very hard to extract (low quantity),purify and control. Recombinant Insulin is a little cheaper however isolation/purification/testing/solvents/applicatio n
all add to the cost.
"(FDA) will have to approve it first"
So the FDA shouldn't have to approve anything? That's moronic.
"can't sell a cure for diabetes yourself."
Of course you can't because unless you've figured out how to selectively manipulate the genome of ß-cells & it's save YOU DON'T HAVE ONE so there's nothing for the FDA to approve!
"My logic rules." - You're totally ignorant of the subject and the hole conspiracy drivel is just you trying to make sense of the world when you can't.
So the FDA shouldn't have to approve anything? That's moronic.
"can't sell a cure for diabetes yourself."
Of course you can't because unless you've figured out how to selectively manipulate the genome of ß-cells & it's save YOU DON'T HAVE ONE so there's nothing for the FDA to approve!
"My logic rules." - You're totally ignorant of the subject and the hole conspiracy drivel is just you trying to make sense of the world when you can't.
"So the FDA shouldn't have to approve anything?"
Not anything! Only the cheap stuff and the one that can be build at home.
I'm not ignorant. I know insulin can keep you alive, and cutting of both your legs too. But this is disgusting practice that can be prevented if there's enough will.
Maybe you're a doctor or study medicine and that is why your acting like that. You can't deal with the fact that people who don't study medicine can have ideas that stultify years of researches and millions.
Not anything! Only the cheap stuff and the one that can be build at home.
I'm not ignorant. I know insulin can keep you alive, and cutting of both your legs too. But this is disgusting practice that can be prevented if there's enough will.
Maybe you're a doctor or study medicine and that is why your acting like that. You can't deal with the fact that people who don't study medicine can have ideas that stultify years of researches and millions.
"Only the cheap stuff"
'Cheap stuff' should be the criteria to approve something not safty and function?
"the one that can be build at home." If you can build it yourself why do you need approval just do it quietly.
"But this is disgusting practice that can be prevented if there's enough will." No, some diabetes can be prevented with good diet & exercise. What about genetic defects which result in the malfunction of: GLUT2/4, SUR1, IRS-1/4, CAP, RAS RAF cascade, AKT, aPKC...etc?
'Cheap stuff' should be the criteria to approve something not safty and function?
"the one that can be build at home." If you can build it yourself why do you need approval just do it quietly.
"But this is disgusting practice that can be prevented if there's enough will." No, some diabetes can be prevented with good diet & exercise. What about genetic defects which result in the malfunction of: GLUT2/4, SUR1, IRS-1/4, CAP, RAS RAF cascade, AKT, aPKC...etc?
""the one that can be build at home." If you can build it yourself why
do you need approval just do it quietly." because most of the people
wont ever hear of it and die.
Diabetes can not only be prevented, but cured with diet!
Well I don't know about the other things I'm not a doctor. But if you are one you shouldn't give stupid advices. An AIDS patient is doomed with modern medicine and you know it.. you're not helping him with your denial. Life is preferred than painful, hopeless existence.
Diabetes can not only be prevented, but cured with diet!
Well I don't know about the other things I'm not a doctor. But if you are one you shouldn't give stupid advices. An AIDS patient is doomed with modern medicine and you know it.. you're not helping him with your denial. Life is preferred than painful, hopeless existence.
"You can't deal with the fact that people who don't study medicine can
have ideas that stultify years of researches and millions."
Yes of course that must be it. I'm evil to. I don't want a cure I want to see people suffer in agony. If that's what you believe fuck you!
I have no problem who comes up with a treatment as long as the claims made are justified with evidence. This claim here however isn't. Why don't you go read the patent yourself? Heck why not just scan it for in vivo application?
Yes of course that must be it. I'm evil to. I don't want a cure I want to see people suffer in agony. If that's what you believe fuck you!
I have no problem who comes up with a treatment as long as the claims made are justified with evidence. This claim here however isn't. Why don't you go read the patent yourself? Heck why not just scan it for in vivo application?
"Maybe you're a doctor or study medicine and that is why your acting like that."
I'm not just acting like that because the claim made isn't justified. I find it shameful that you allege that so many researchers, (doctors/biochemists/chemists/physicists/pharmacol ogists... etc.) which have dedicated their lives to finding cures in order to reduce the suffering in this world, have dishonest motives while you honour this quack who gives people false hope.
I'm not just acting like that because the claim made isn't justified. I find it shameful that you allege that so many researchers, (doctors/biochemists/chemists/physicists/pharmacol ogists... etc.) which have dedicated their lives to finding cures in order to reduce the suffering in this world, have dishonest motives while you honour this quack who gives people false hope.
I knew it's the diploma.
A dieing person don't care about justification.
Before you call something a quack you have to do a research and see for yourself otherwise you're just denying. You can call it a quack because you know AIDS is tough and you think it can't be that easy to be cured. That is your back-up claim - it's pathetic.
A dieing person don't care about justification.
Before you call something a quack you have to do a research and see for yourself otherwise you're just denying. You can call it a quack because you know AIDS is tough and you think it can't be that easy to be cured. That is your back-up claim - it's pathetic.
"A dieing person don't care about justification."
Ah so the lying to the terminally ill is ok. Taking their money for unsubstantiated claims is ok. Leading people to believe there is a cure when there isn't is ok. Leading people to put down their antiviral drugs thereby accelerating their death is ok. Lowering awareness towards HIV (because after all there's a cure) which leads to more infections is ok.
What if your child wouldn't use a condom because it thought AIDS can be cured anyway?
Ah so the lying to the terminally ill is ok. Taking their money for unsubstantiated claims is ok. Leading people to believe there is a cure when there isn't is ok. Leading people to put down their antiviral drugs thereby accelerating their death is ok. Lowering awareness towards HIV (because after all there's a cure) which leads to more infections is ok.
What if your child wouldn't use a condom because it thought AIDS can be cured anyway?
No one is taking money.
You're not sure which is cure and which not.
At some point the disease is getting complicated and medicine is predicting death.
Some alternatives are not lethal (all I know).
No need of lowering awareness - of course both can be used simultaneously.
You're not sure which is cure and which not.
At some point the disease is getting complicated and medicine is predicting death.
Some alternatives are not lethal (all I know).
No need of lowering awareness - of course both can be used simultaneously.
"No need of lowering awareness"
Sure the claim 'there's a cure for AIDS' will not lower awareness.
read this and 'cure' your ignorance:
avert(.)org/cure-for-aids(.)htm
"No one is taking money." No... the materials/devices are all free.
"You're not sure which is cure and which not."
So everything is a cure until falsified. Hear ye, Hear ye lobotomies cure AIDS!
"At some point the disease is getting complicated and medicine is predicting death." - Evidence please.
Sure the claim 'there's a cure for AIDS' will not lower awareness.
read this and 'cure' your ignorance:
avert(.)org/cure-for-aids(.)htm
"No one is taking money." No... the materials/devices are all free.
"You're not sure which is cure and which not."
So everything is a cure until falsified. Hear ye, Hear ye lobotomies cure AIDS!
"At some point the disease is getting complicated and medicine is predicting death." - Evidence please.
"Also the fact that you disregard the millions which the pharmaceutical
industry has saved/cured with their vaccines and antibiotics even
thought they don't make much money of them shows that you merely
aknowledge things that support your preconceived notions." HAHAHAHA i
think u got sumthang twisted. i think u mean they destroyed millions of
lives, they make a fortune by selling them and YOU have preconceived
notions
"i think u mean they destroyed millions of lives"
Are you gonna support this asanine claim with any evidence at all?
"they make a fortune by selling"
Yes and the fact that you don't have any willpower to resist their *evil* drugs is alone the fault of the pharmaceutical companies. It all makes sense.
"YOU have preconceived notions"
Do I? Ok then tell me which cell culture lines did Dr. Steven Kaali use to do his experiments and does the patent in question have any claim for in vivo use?
Are you gonna support this asanine claim with any evidence at all?
"they make a fortune by selling"
Yes and the fact that you don't have any willpower to resist their *evil* drugs is alone the fault of the pharmaceutical companies. It all makes sense.
"YOU have preconceived notions"
Do I? Ok then tell me which cell culture lines did Dr. Steven Kaali use to do his experiments and does the patent in question have any claim for in vivo use?
Okay I am not a professional virologist BUT there are countless
certified experts who can provide you with peer reviewed evidence that
the HTLV viruses are harmless and furthermore statistical evidence that
shows how drugs such as AZT were OBVIOUSLY the cause of death in AIDS
patients. It is quiet simple actually, if you think about it. Those
drugs are chemo therapy drugs which, if you ask me, are a paradox in
itself. How can you heal cells by killing them? And don't even
explain...
"peer reviewed evidence that the HTLV viruses are harmless"
All HTLV infections are harmless? Please provide citations.
"furthermore statistical evidence that shows how drugs such as AZT were OBVIOUSLY the cause of death in AIDS patients" All the studies I know have shown that AZT prolongs the life of patients with AIDS so I will need a citation here too.
"Those drugs are chemo therapy drugs which" AZT is not a chemo therapy drug. How could it? It's affinity to our DNA-Polymerase is quite low
All HTLV infections are harmless? Please provide citations.
"furthermore statistical evidence that shows how drugs such as AZT were OBVIOUSLY the cause of death in AIDS patients" All the studies I know have shown that AZT prolongs the life of patients with AIDS so I will need a citation here too.
"Those drugs are chemo therapy drugs which" AZT is not a chemo therapy drug. How could it? It's affinity to our DNA-Polymerase is quite low
As I already said I am not a professional researcher therefore I cannot
point you to any citations, frankly I'm too lazy anyway. I just look at
my surroundings and observe the obvious, which maybe hard to grasp for
you as a bio-chemist, who understands that nature is not always what it
seems like, however best believe humans and their behaviors are, more
often than not.
"As I already said I am not a professional researcher therefore I
cannot point you to any citations, frankly I'm too lazy anyway."
If you don't even care to substantiate your claims why even make them.
"which maybe hard to grasp for you as a bio-chemist, who understands that nature is not always what it seems like, however best believe humans and their behaviors are, more often than not." - This wasn't a coherent statement.
If you don't even care to substantiate your claims why even make them.
"which maybe hard to grasp for you as a bio-chemist, who understands that nature is not always what it seems like, however best believe humans and their behaviors are, more often than not." - This wasn't a coherent statement.
I do not feel the need to substanstiate my claims to you, because if
you really cared then you would do your own research until you are
absolutely convinced that these conspiracies are bogus. Because if
there is only a slightest chance that they are indeed true then your
conscience should lead you to do so but I'm sure it doesn't matter how
much evidence I provide you with, since I'm sure you will have some
citation to counter mine and vice versa. I suggest you try to look at
the big picture.
"I do not feel the need to substanstiate my claims to you, because if
you really cared then you would do your own research until you are
absolutely convinced that these conspiracies are bogus."
ABoy877 By your own avowal you have already disqualified yourself from a rational discussion discussion. Thinking that a biochemistry student knows nothing of the matter at hand is just a testimony to that.
"I'm sure it doesn't matter how much evidence I provide you with" - Mere presupposed allegation
ABoy877 By your own avowal you have already disqualified yourself from a rational discussion discussion. Thinking that a biochemistry student knows nothing of the matter at hand is just a testimony to that.
"I'm sure it doesn't matter how much evidence I provide you with" - Mere presupposed allegation
"How can you heal cells by killing them?"
You can't 'heal' HIV infected cells because the HIV genome has integrated itself into the genome. However what you can do is reduce the viral load (AZT does exactly that by inhibiting the reverse transcriptase) which reduces the infection speed of further T helper cells and therefore the progression of AIDS.
You can't 'heal' HIV infected cells because the HIV genome has integrated itself into the genome. However what you can do is reduce the viral load (AZT does exactly that by inhibiting the reverse transcriptase) which reduces the infection speed of further T helper cells and therefore the progression of AIDS.
he's talking about making your own zapper?
"Cure for AIDS that the Pharma companies want to suppress"
Common be real. If the pharma companies really wanted to suppress something that works to good they'd buy it up and sell it themselfs.
Common be real. If the pharma companies really wanted to suppress something that works to good they'd buy it up and sell it themselfs.
then they would get less research money. In the case of herbs, they just fund studies that always favor pharma companies.
"then they would get less research money."
Do I have to explain capitalism to you? If someone finds a cure (e.g me) that works I will write a patent. Now seeing that I don't have the money and resources for clinical trials I will knock on the door of Roche, Novartis and Pfizer (in capitalims they compete you know). If the cure is really good they'll make a huge profit while they weaken their competition so they'll just trow money at me in order to get it on the market for them.
Do I have to explain capitalism to you? If someone finds a cure (e.g me) that works I will write a patent. Now seeing that I don't have the money and resources for clinical trials I will knock on the door of Roche, Novartis and Pfizer (in capitalims they compete you know). If the cure is really good they'll make a huge profit while they weaken their competition so they'll just trow money at me in order to get it on the market for them.
infiniti888.... U FUCKIN RETARD!.... pharma companies profit from
treating aids as opposed to curing it is far greater... it keeps them
coming back for more... like crack heads.... what if drug dealers sold
a drug that would keep u high for the rest of your life with one
hit.... they'd be broke.... DUMB ASS!!!
"infiniti888.... U FUCKIN RETARD!"
Yes very mature. Let's not discuss rationality and lets not reply to my comment so I wont even see that ad hominem.
"pharma companies profit from treating aids as opposed to curing it is far greater"
That could be true if there were only ONE pharma company WITHOUT competition. Alone a cure for herpes is worth ~1 billion a year and you think that pharma companies would readily do without that money?
At least this dumb ass here understands capitalism.
Yes very mature. Let's not discuss rationality and lets not reply to my comment so I wont even see that ad hominem.
"pharma companies profit from treating aids as opposed to curing it is far greater"
That could be true if there were only ONE pharma company WITHOUT competition. Alone a cure for herpes is worth ~1 billion a year and you think that pharma companies would readily do without that money?
At least this dumb ass here understands capitalism.
the medical industry is evil and out to profit on killing people. Doctors arent much better
medical companys dont want to help peoplr there only concern is to make money
thats why if there ever was a cure for AIDS the general public will not hear about it
just because medical company's will lose money for all the AIDS meds that wont be used anymore
thats why if there ever was a cure for AIDS the general public will not hear about it
just because medical company's will lose money for all the AIDS meds that wont be used anymore
"medical companys dont want to help peoplr there only concern is to make money"
Only Bob Beck could amass such a large number of morons in one location. Bob was a kook and a fraud but he could hoodwink the less than competent.
I give up trying to convince the dolts in here that Bob Beck was a goof and all his contraptions going back to the 80's were just crap, plain and simple.
I have several of them in my lab and all are poorly built unsafe piles of junk not worthy of a good paper weight.
Only Bob Beck could amass such a large number of morons in one location. Bob was a kook and a fraud but he could hoodwink the less than competent.
I give up trying to convince the dolts in here that Bob Beck was a goof and all his contraptions going back to the 80's were just crap, plain and simple.
I have several of them in my lab and all are poorly built unsafe piles of junk not worthy of a good paper weight.
...because I understand the idea behind it alright and it's nothing
more then I just said. Secondly, YES genius it is their fault in
collaboration with a sinister but powerful elite that has control over
everything that influences us in every way. And YES it is planned,
discussed, and blatently exercised on the masses, while apathetic and
gullible people swallow it like candy. You see, why would you need will
power to resist if you think everything is okay...
"...because I understand the idea behind!"
Well I'm sorry to inform you. Apparently you don't.
"YES genius it is their fault in collaboration with a sinister but powerful elite that has control over everything that influences us in every way" - Drop your paranoid delusion
"while apathetic and gullible people swallow it like candy." - So the pharma companies are responsible that people are idiots?
Well I'm sorry to inform you. Apparently you don't.
"YES genius it is their fault in collaboration with a sinister but powerful elite that has control over everything that influences us in every way" - Drop your paranoid delusion
"while apathetic and gullible people swallow it like candy." - So the pharma companies are responsible that people are idiots?
Paranoid? Delusion? Well, this is the answer attention craving pseudo
scientific thinkers always give me. To tell you the truth, there is
nothing I can tell you to convince you. You have closed your mind
strictly to a limited scientific method. Apparently you have lost the
ability to connect dots and see beyond what you can see with your eyes.
You miss something all the great thinkers in history had: vision and
confidence in it
"pseudo scientific"
Pseudo? Me? Please.
"there is nothing I can tell you to convince you"
No there isn't but... and here is the big difference if you provide me with reasonable evidence I will change my mind faster than you might think.
"You have closed your mind strictly to a limited scientific method." - Ah... and that's pseudo scintific thinking?
"You miss something all the great thinkers in history had" Well at least their ideas are supported by evidence.
Pseudo? Me? Please.
"there is nothing I can tell you to convince you"
No there isn't but... and here is the big difference if you provide me with reasonable evidence I will change my mind faster than you might think.
"You have closed your mind strictly to a limited scientific method." - Ah... and that's pseudo scintific thinking?
"You miss something all the great thinkers in history had" Well at least their ideas are supported by evidence.
I know what you are thinking: " Noooo, they would never do that I can't imagine anybody could."
Thirdly, YES YOU obviously have pre-conceived notions. But why don't you take a look at what people such as Dr. Peter Duesberg have to say about this, he is the leader on the other side in this debate on AIDS and has his own website. However, the more you think about it the more inconvenient truth you will stumble upon, trust me, peace.
Thirdly, YES YOU obviously have pre-conceived notions. But why don't you take a look at what people such as Dr. Peter Duesberg have to say about this, he is the leader on the other side in this debate on AIDS and has his own website. However, the more you think about it the more inconvenient truth you will stumble upon, trust me, peace.
"I know what you are thinking: " Noooo, they would never do that I can't imagine anybody could.""
I know some of these 'evil' people and let me assure you they don't eat babies for a living. They just try to do their best finding remedies.
"Thirdly, YES YOU obviously have pre-conceived notions" Because I only respond to evidence?
"But why don't you take a look at what people such as Dr. Peter Duesberg have to say about this" There's broad scientific consensus that his hypothesis is incorrect.
I know some of these 'evil' people and let me assure you they don't eat babies for a living. They just try to do their best finding remedies.
"Thirdly, YES YOU obviously have pre-conceived notions" Because I only respond to evidence?
"But why don't you take a look at what people such as Dr. Peter Duesberg have to say about this" There's broad scientific consensus that his hypothesis is incorrect.
You just don't get it, I never said all of them are evil and most don't
even know what they are doing, including you. It doesn't matter what I
say to you, I mean I'm one of those guys that believes in something
proposterous like aliens. All I can say is it doesn't matter if you
don't widen your perspective now, you will see the truth anyway.
"It doesn't matter what I say to you, I mean I'm one of those guys that believes in something proposterous like aliens."
Well at least you admit you're delusional and no matter what evidence I provide to the contrary you will not change your mind so I don't need to waste my time on you.
"All I can say is it doesn't matter if you don't widen your perspective now"
Lol says the guy who will not change his mind no matter how much evidence is provided. At least I admit that I could be wrong.
Well at least you admit you're delusional and no matter what evidence I provide to the contrary you will not change your mind so I don't need to waste my time on you.
"All I can say is it doesn't matter if you don't widen your perspective now"
Lol says the guy who will not change his mind no matter how much evidence is provided. At least I admit that I could be wrong.
Yes if you are talking about evidence that is usually provided by the
perpetrators of a flawed scientific community, evidence that can be
interpreted in many different ways. However, if you claim to be a
scientist then you must know that there is no such thing as absolute
evidence, there can never be absolute proof. I mean people like you are
the ones that claim even seeing something doesn't actually mean it
really happened, you could see an alien but your probably just
hallucinating, right?
By da way I didn't even watch this all the way through although I
believe this could be a potential cure for virological infections.
"I believe this could be a potential cure for virological infections."
Believe? Provide evidence!
Believe? Provide evidence!
A normal person who want to heal people will do a research for
everything possible he can think about. After all people believe you
and give their lives in your hands.
What I see here is egocentric attitude and blind denial which is enough for me to stop believe you personally. I would never trust you as a doctor.
I rather believe in some unknown guy over the internet who isn't motivated by money, ego or blinded by stupidity.
What I see here is egocentric attitude and blind denial which is enough for me to stop believe you personally. I would never trust you as a doctor.
I rather believe in some unknown guy over the internet who isn't motivated by money, ego or blinded by stupidity.
""What I see here is egocentric attitude and blind denial which is enough for me to stop believe you personally."
And what I see in you is someone who refuses to provide evidence. Someone who has indulged so much in conspiracy theories in order to make sense of the world that he/she suffers from cognitive dissonance. You filter the information which conflicts with your already formed believes, in an effort to ignore that information and reinforce your beliefs.
I'm open just provide evidence.
And what I see in you is someone who refuses to provide evidence. Someone who has indulged so much in conspiracy theories in order to make sense of the world that he/she suffers from cognitive dissonance. You filter the information which conflicts with your already formed believes, in an effort to ignore that information and reinforce your beliefs.
I'm open just provide evidence.
I can't provide you any scientific evidence myself. You're the one who
should do the research no matter how funny you think the guy looks.
It's a matter of life and death for some people.
I told you my opinion. If it's me, I'll take it no matter what, it's worth a try. There's so many information about this current device that you'll find enough people who tried it for many types of diseases including AIDS. Internet is full to the roof with forums, groups, chats and websites that have info.
I told you my opinion. If it's me, I'll take it no matter what, it's worth a try. There's so many information about this current device that you'll find enough people who tried it for many types of diseases including AIDS. Internet is full to the roof with forums, groups, chats and websites that have info.
"I can't provide...evidence..."
Then why defend him?
"do the research" - I don't have the lab (S3) nor the time nor the money to do it. Also this contradicts well founded knowledge about HIV infections and I could use my time more effectivly (searching for Herpes inhibitors) than to falsify something that isn't supported by any scientific evidence.
"Internet is full" Yes but there is not one scientific study and the internet is also full of people claiming to have been abducted by aliens.
Then why defend him?
"do the research" - I don't have the lab (S3) nor the time nor the money to do it. Also this contradicts well founded knowledge about HIV infections and I could use my time more effectivly (searching for Herpes inhibitors) than to falsify something that isn't supported by any scientific evidence.
"Internet is full" Yes but there is not one scientific study and the internet is also full of people claiming to have been abducted by aliens.
Because it sounds logical, it's motivated by a good cause, it's not money oriented, it's not ego oriented.
If you can't do the research you can't prove it's quack.
Cures don't need scientific proof to work, results are enough. People who are going to die don't need proof, they need help.
There is enough information about this device, I found google group and many articles from different people, this is not one guy's claim.
If you can't do the research you can't prove it's quack.
Cures don't need scientific proof to work, results are enough. People who are going to die don't need proof, they need help.
There is enough information about this device, I found google group and many articles from different people, this is not one guy's claim.
"I've heard of much more promising drugs than this one, you should heard of them too."
Are you even aware which trials a medicament has to pass in order to get approved? If yes it shouldn't supprise you that only 1 in a 100 which actually works in cell culture gets approved.
"He showed how the system works whit few words" Every system works like that! It's called capitalism. And no DCA isn't suppressed you can go buy it if you like.
Are you even aware which trials a medicament has to pass in order to get approved? If yes it shouldn't supprise you that only 1 in a 100 which actually works in cell culture gets approved.
"He showed how the system works whit few words" Every system works like that! It's called capitalism. And no DCA isn't suppressed you can go buy it if you like.
No offense.
I know that trials are really hard and slow. It shouldn't be like that though.
Pharma (not medicine) is money motivated machine and they shouldn't produce stuff that don't earn because they will bankrupt.
Suppressing is when cheaper drug (or food) can do the same or better job than some expensive one (like insulin). B17 is a suppressed drug, no one in US and Europe can sell or use it. It's approved in Mexico and there are clinics specialized in treating cancer using B17/laetrile.
I know that trials are really hard and slow. It shouldn't be like that though.
Pharma (not medicine) is money motivated machine and they shouldn't produce stuff that don't earn because they will bankrupt.
Suppressing is when cheaper drug (or food) can do the same or better job than some expensive one (like insulin). B17 is a suppressed drug, no one in US and Europe can sell or use it. It's approved in Mexico and there are clinics specialized in treating cancer using B17/laetrile.
"Pharma (not medicine) is money motivated machine and they shouldn't
produce stuff that don't earn because they will bankrupt."
Yes like any other business in the world. However as long as they have competition they must market medicaments which acutally work.
Drop the diabetes. I told you that some diabetes can be cured without Insulin. Most people are just to lazy and that is not the fault of the pharma industry.
Yes like any other business in the world. However as long as they have competition they must market medicaments which acutally work.
Drop the diabetes. I told you that some diabetes can be cured without Insulin. Most people are just to lazy and that is not the fault of the pharma industry.
"B17 is a suppressed drug,"
Yes and there are good reasons to suppress B17
A) It doesn't work
Milazzo S, Ernst E, Lejeune S, Schmidt K (2006). "Laetrile treatment for cancer". Cochrane Database Syst Rev (2): CD005476
B) It's dangerous. One of our enzymes (beta-glucosidase) leads to the release of cyanide from B17. Cyanide is a very potent cytochrome c oxidase inhibitor (electron transport chain) which ultimately deprives cells of energy leading to their death.
Yes and there are good reasons to suppress B17
A) It doesn't work
Milazzo S, Ernst E, Lejeune S, Schmidt K (2006). "Laetrile treatment for cancer". Cochrane Database Syst Rev (2): CD005476
B) It's dangerous. One of our enzymes (beta-glucosidase) leads to the release of cyanide from B17. Cyanide is a very potent cytochrome c oxidase inhibitor (electron transport chain) which ultimately deprives cells of energy leading to their death.
It release the cyanide molecule in contact with cancer cell.
Ones I tried to "overdose" with B17 eating (promoted as a prevention) a full pack of apricot kernels (100 and more) and do you know what happened? Nothing. In my country nobody ever heard of poisoning with apricot kernels, people are selling them freely everywhere.
People wrote a book and made a movie about something that is 100% free. Why would they lie for?
Ones I tried to "overdose" with B17 eating (promoted as a prevention) a full pack of apricot kernels (100 and more) and do you know what happened? Nothing. In my country nobody ever heard of poisoning with apricot kernels, people are selling them freely everywhere.
People wrote a book and made a movie about something that is 100% free. Why would they lie for?
"Because it sounds logical"
How can you possibly know that? Virology is not your field and Dr. Beck was a physicist. I think it would be save to assume that my knowledge exceeds that of Dr. Beck in this field.
"If you can't do the research you can't prove it's quack." The claim that it cures AIDS is most likely quack. It denies every established fact about HIV. Further no good scientist makes a claim of certainty without evidence. This alone implies a high likelihood that something is quack.
How can you possibly know that? Virology is not your field and Dr. Beck was a physicist. I think it would be save to assume that my knowledge exceeds that of Dr. Beck in this field.
"If you can't do the research you can't prove it's quack." The claim that it cures AIDS is most likely quack. It denies every established fact about HIV. Further no good scientist makes a claim of certainty without evidence. This alone implies a high likelihood that something is quack.
Funny thing is, I used to think like you. I wasn't born believing in
conspiracy theories but that changed throughout the course of my life.
However, ppl like you never gave these absurd theories a chance in the
first place, therefore you do not even consider researching them
further. Believe me, I have argued with ppl like you in the past and
provided "evidence" and most are like you, they just can't handle it.
Yet, some actually admitted they never even tried to look at it from my
perspective.
"Believe me, I have argued with ppl like you in the past and provided
"evidence" and most are like you, they just can't handle it."
Argument from personal conviction. Not impressed.
"Yet, some actually admitted they never even tried to look at it from my perspective."
Ah the ever so popular confirmation bias. So first you embrace a perspective and then you go looking for the evidence. Do I really need to explain to you why this not objective?
Argument from personal conviction. Not impressed.
"Yet, some actually admitted they never even tried to look at it from my perspective."
Ah the ever so popular confirmation bias. So first you embrace a perspective and then you go looking for the evidence. Do I really need to explain to you why this not objective?
"So first you embrace a perspective and then you go looking for the
evidence. Do I really need to explain to you why this not objective?"
Yes, my ingenious fellow, isn't that how you go about the scientific method? First, you form an idea...hmmm, let me see here what do you call it again? Help me out here...oh yeah a hypothesis. Then you find evidence, right?
Yes, my ingenious fellow, isn't that how you go about the scientific method? First, you form an idea...hmmm, let me see here what do you call it again? Help me out here...oh yeah a hypothesis. Then you find evidence, right?
Some people think like me too and surprisingly this is working for the
media. On the other hand the fat one "works" for the society's health.
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"Some people think like me too"
I didn't say that I don't have any critism for the pharmaceutical industry as long as it's reasonable. The example you've provided highlights one of their shortcomings.
The good thing is if something really works well (I'm not to familiar with DCA) it immediately gets the attention of the scientific community and it can be researched at universities using public funding.
However don't get to excited over DCA the clinical trials haven't produced any results yet.
I didn't say that I don't have any critism for the pharmaceutical industry as long as it's reasonable. The example you've provided highlights one of their shortcomings.
The good thing is if something really works well (I'm not to familiar with DCA) it immediately gets the attention of the scientific community and it can be researched at universities using public funding.
However don't get to excited over DCA the clinical trials haven't produced any results yet.
I know the "Listen system" that can cure people with aids had to be
suppressed by the medical association saying that they can't claim it
does that even if aids patients have no hive in the blood after the
treatment cause the drug companies would miss their billions of $ &
they have the patent on aids. Fuckers! throw Bush Cheney &
Scientology & the Vatican that suppresses the reincarnation
scriptures into the filthy boiling pot of bs & rid the world of the
growing scum that's blocking our skies.
thank you for the video
you wanna know my cure for aids? stop fucking stanky bitches. 16 bitchs still no aids..
so how do you build it? where are the freakin instructions?
AIDS is a project of the ILLUMINATI secret society the virus was
created in laboratory as a biological weapon to eradicate the number of
the population worldwide MASONS especialy JEWS NEW WORLD ORDER we are
living the apocaliptic times. they the ILLUMINATI have and always had
the cure for AIDS .GOD have mursy on our souls.
Where are the instructions!? Where did he publish them?
Thank you for posting this, I've seen on google video and it was remove soon after.
This is not Bullshit people, just go to your science friends and give them this as a hypothesis!
This is not Bullshit people, just go to your science friends and give them this as a hypothesis!
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